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<edd> Nat's up on stage
<edd> Miguel: "Mono just as vast as explaining God'
<campd> everybody im nat now!
<campd> err
<edd> i'll let you know when his laptop's onscreen :)
<campd> yay
<edd> miguel's slides are up right now
<campd> ah.
<edd> miguel keeps referring to dashboard
<edd> hopefully we'll see plenty of it
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<joe> it'll be sweet when it crashes
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<snorp> deadlock would be better :)
<joe> well
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<joe> that's more likely, yes. :)
<joe> i wonder if he's going to try to hide by using his emo im name
<campd> if he has any brains at all, he'll create a brand new account right now.
<joe> yeah
<edd> heh, miguel gets away with swearing in his keynote
<edd> quoting nat, "that is fucking interesting man"
<snorp> well, he learned english on irc, right? :)
<edd> miguel incapable of operating his computer on stage :)
<edd> good job nat's there
<joe> is it being webcast anywhere?
<edd> don't thikn so
<edd> there's a camera pointed at him tho
<joe> ok
<joe> you need to find out nat's ip address
<joe> so i can send him some inappropriate cluepackets
<edd> hehe
<joe> just politely ask him
<edd> nat is NAT'd, i'm afraid
<joe> bummer
<campd> joe: post a horribly embarassing blog entry
<campd> joe: 'cause you know your blog titles are going to end up on the demo somewhere
<snorp> sigh
<snorp> oh, good idea :)
<joe> hahahaha
<joe> 11 july 2003 - one day nat and i were drunk talking at charlies and he told me all sorts of things about...
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<edd> hey qmacro :);
<qmacro> hey edd :-)
<qmacro> I was just going to wish nat good luck, if he were here
<edd> he's on the sofa
<edd> and on AIM
<edd> but not daft enough to be here :)
<qmacro> "here" (handwaving referring to virtual spaces)
<qmacro> :-)
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* LotR peeks in
<edd> nat up now
<edd> "miguel got me up here to talk about a project i've essentially only been working on for 7 or 8 days"
* LotR thought we were going to get a running transcript.. ;)
<qmacro> nat++ # showing diagrams in ascii art in emacs 
<edd> he's talking way too fast
<edd> :)
<edd> and mostly about stuff you already know so far.
<LotR> heh
<qmacro> nat is explaining the philosophy of db
<qmacro> and what cluepackets are etc
<qmacro> nat starts db
<edd> ok, dashboard up on scren
<qmacro> "pretty much in toy mode, still"
<qmacro> Miguel sends nat an IM
<edd> miguel now IMing miguiel
<LotR> you should each do every other sentence
<qmacro> dashboard showing conversations 
<qmacro> little buglet - db not showing something
<joe> bummer, nat's not on his normal im accounts. :)
<qmacro> ah - better now
<edd> rock
<joe> miguel is, though. :)
<qmacro> demo works nicely - yay
<qmacro> talking about interface to ev. addr book
<qmacro> slow down, nat!
<LotR> haha
<LotR> yell that out loud :)
<qmacro> I think he's going to talk about cluepacket rewriting, err, cluechaining, now
<edd> explaning cluechaining now
<Cardinal> Is he not used to speaking?
<qmacro> shows graphviz cluepacket chain on screen
<joe> he talks all the time
<edd> oh this graph looks so like RDF :)
<joe> sometimes it's like, dude, shut up
<qmacro> ooo, arcs and nodes
<edd> they're just short on time this morning
<edd> so are rushing through things
<qmacro> the presentation is going very well
<qmacro> first actual live demo that I've seen in any keynote this week - go miguel and nat!
<Cardinal> edd: Yeah, I told him that a couple nights ago.  It's totally a graph of triples.
<qmacro> miguel now has im conversation with nat
<qmacro> dashboard changes - yay
<edd> joe's number now on screen :)
<Cardinal> Uh-oh. :)
<joe> hehe
<joe> fortunately it's my office number. :)
<edd> ah, he faked your number
<joe> but if any of you chumps start im'ing me i'm gonna be upset
<edd> the tux piuc up again
<qmacro> Nat's IM msg: "This demo is a total disaster .... plus, the audience has an odor"
<qmacro> they're very entertaining, have the audience entranced
<qmacro> bug number trigger demoed now
<LotR> yeah, you entertainment is safe in the hands of nat&miguel :)
<qmacro> nat "it's trivial to write frontends and backends"
<qmacro> nat lists various examples
<qmacro> miguel's phone rings
<qmacro> (could have pretended it was part of the demo :-)
<LotR> does his phone send cluepackets over bluetooth yet?
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<Cardinal> Edd's does.. :)
<qmacro> Miguel admits his phone isn't bluetooth
<edd> yeah ;-)
<edd> foafbot mentioned too
<qmacro> nat very diplomatic about the libremem indexer
<aethyr> hah
<qmacro> "old school code"
<qmacro> nat says rewriting the engine doesn't require front/backend rewriting
<qmacro> miguel talks about deep vs loose integration, and strong / weak typing
* LotR fails to believe that (no rewriting)
<qmacro> nat looks forward to doing some specialised backends for programmers
<aethyr> LotR: yea, esp. if you start changing the mechanisms that the engine communicates with the backends by...
<qmacro> "oh, we have just 2 mins left?"
<edd> over
<edd> break
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